(If this posts twice, I apologize -- LJ is being dumb. RAWRGH. >____>)

So, yesterday, spent a lot of time poking around the different journal servers out there -- LJ, natch, and then a bit of DeadJournal, a little of GreatestJournal, JournalFen, and so forth. I mean, one of the things I do miss about being home for the summer is that I live out in the suburb-ish area, out away from the busiest parts of the city; it's not quite so easy to just wander out to some small place and people-watch.

I mean hell, in my particular dorm building, if I want to observe people, all I have to do is leave my door open and watch the comings and goings in the lounge, or go downstairs to the cafeteria. In any city enviroment, there's no shortage of people, just from my experiences. [grins]

But you know, in a way, it's the same for journals online, too -- in many ways, you're getting a much more personal view of the people you're looking at. I mean, using myself as an example -- you can look at me and see I'm fidgety, that I constantly play with my hair, and have a tendency to either dawdle or walk too fast. That you can get by noticing me when you're doing people-watching in a crowd; what you don't know is that I always crush eggshells before I throw them away (a habit born from childhood superstition), that I like cherry coke, or that I write. Conversely, you can get those from me, but not the physical characteristics, by reading my various blogs.

It's interesting -- I've always heard that advice of "write what you know," which I think is good to an extent; at the same time, dude. If people only wrote what they knew, what they'd had firsthand experience with, we wouldn't have huge chunks of the sci-fi and fantasy genres, which would be tremendously sad for me, both as a writer and a reader. XD But when it comes to creating characters -- yes, I think it's important to draw traits from real people, even those you don't necessarily know. You see a child in the park with a certain brilliant smile, you take it, and then you try to describe it when you write a character. They say you always put a piece of yourself into characters you write, but I think it's better if you put shades and echoes of others you know.

That gets into tricky territory, though -- what if you're basing a character on someone, and that person reads the story and takes offense? If someone wrote about my tendency to spazz and go tenaciously stupid, and I could recognize myself in that -- well, yeah, I'd be hurt, but at the same time ... well, all right, maybe it's me, but I really find it fascinating to see someone through multiple viewpoints. I think that's still why I write and read a lot of fanfic -- because the whole multiple viewpoint thing interests me. I see Character A as a sick and twisted character; my friend sees him as just a guy who's made some really horrible mistakes, but isn't terrible under it all, even though we're watching the same series and events.

Given that half the time, I think of life as just some gigantic story -- "all the world's a stage," and all -- I think it would be interesting to see someone take traits from me and write them into a character. I know one of my Dragon's Pen friends has mentioned he could easily imagine taking elements of all of our group and writing them as characters in his novels, and me, I think it'd be cool to see. But I can understand why someone wouldn't like that, especially if the portrayal is less than flattering, so ...

I think the key is to take parts of that personality you see, and doctor it. Give the character slightly different motives for acting that way than (your impression of) those the actual person has. Maybe the spazz grew up in a loud household (not mine) and is loud because that's the best way, in their experience, to be heard.

-- and I'm sorta getting off-track. XD; This was originally meant to be more of a journal thing. There are certain trends I've noticed throughout for posting on these journal servers, that have always vaguely confused me. It goes back to the whole "why do people do what they do?" sort of thing, motives and all. I'm horrible, I'm sorry. XD

On journal servers with 'friends,' why bother friending yourself? It's one thing if, like several of my friends, you've got separate fic/art journals and a personal one, but what's the point of friending yourself on a server? I honestly don't get it. o_o

Lyricposts, too. Why do some people feel the need to just post lyrics in lieu of entries? I mean, a journal is, for all intents and purposes that I've always known, to be a forum where the owner can relate thoughts/experiences/creations, in his/her own words. I rarely, if ever, have seen much interest in lyricposts, but they still pop up. Why? Is it just for the gratuitous "here's what I'm listening to!" because the little 'Current Music' entry field most of these journal servers provide isn't enough? I'm honestly curious; I've had times where I fling lyrics at friends or had it done to me vice-versa over AIM, usually along the lines of a character/story songcall. I don't see so much of that in LJ (and DJ, and Jfen, and so forth), just -- "look! lyrics! yay?"

Also, more generally -- how often do people post, or check their flist? Is there anoyne else, who goes back every two-three hours (and sometimes every half-hour, when I'm especially bored XD;;) to refresh and see if anything new's been posted? What prompts people to make entries about anything? Additionally, when are you usually moved to comment? Not necessarily on fics, but anything --is it the "haofdjpaejr;afa STUBBED MY TOE!" post that gets the "omg u poor thing!" reply x 20, the "I'm sick, blarrrrgh!" entry gets a few well-wishers, and so on. What drives you to post, and to comment? Personal interest? Boredom? Because you need to get in touch with the person and know that like me they are sad and easily bored and will likely check e-mail before an flist it's easier to get in touch with them via LJ/e-mailed comments?

I'm just nosily curious, and wondering. XD Anyone?
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From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com


Don't have answers for everything, but I check my flist pretty constantly when I'm bored. Usually because I'm, uh, bored (or, alternatively, when I should be doing something I don't feel like doing). And I have myself friended for two reasons - one of which is no longer applicable, but my friends page used to be in a different format from my journal page, and I was curious how an entry would look in a different formatting. And I keep myself friended now because I like knowing where my posts are in relation to other posts. I don't post much, and that's easier for me than remembering dates and times.

As for why I post, hmm. My lj is pretty much all fanning all the time, on the assumption on the things that make me squee probably will do the same to other fans. Which isn't to say I don't have a life outside of One Piece (perhaps not a very interesting life, but I do have one), but I tend to use the net for escapism.
It also might be because I keep a daily written journal, have for almost a decade now, so the whining and worries of my "real life" get dumped on those private pages. Can't say for certain, but a lot of people on my flist are writers like myself, and I imagine they, like me, find the act of writing down those stresses therapeutic. And since they're in the habit of keeping a blog, that's where it gets written.

And why I'm commenting to this now, with a whole essay no less - uh, I'm at work. And thus bored. And I've been thinking lately myself about the whys of blogging, so some o' that pondering just got dumped here...

oh, and hi ^_^ yah, I've been quiet but I'm still here, damn pirates don't have all my fangirl soul...I've squirreled a few pieces away to enjoy your Naruto fic and such ^^

From: [identity profile] jpegasus.livejournal.com


I think it would incredibly cool if someone wrote a story about Dragon's Pen, or, parts of parts of Dragon pen. You're right; it would be very interesting to see yourself through someone else's viewpoint.

At like...1-3am when I'm bored out of my mind (why am I not sleeping?) I often journal hop. My LJ page--check for comments. Friends' page--check for updates, leave comments, check for replies to comments left. Hop to GJ--repeat process. When I'm really bored I troll the "most recent posters" list on the GJ home page, or go to the sue communities and gag myself to death X3.

From: [identity profile] jpegasus.livejournal.com


I'm not sure I'd want to write a character like ME...because I already know what I think about me, and I would put major effort into not-mary suing it. Infact, I'd probably end up going the other way entirely, and completely selling myself short. I think everyone except *cough* Sean and Charlie would do this, actually. >->

But I'd write them about other people, if they did it for me. I was also sad the FF-thing pittered out. That was fun! :)

You're SO the squiggly one.

No no, you misunderstand. It is a sue-mocking community. People post exerpts from REALLY horrible sue-fics. I go there when I'm depressed. "I thought I was miserable before...now I'm REALLY in pain.."

From: [personal profile] anruik


I constantly check my flist; or go back and see what I've missed if I've been out (what a nightmare doing that was when I returned from AX @_@). I get lots of news that way, as well as fics and what have you. Most of those I've friended are like that. It's having a personal newspaper to look at. *laughs*

I've only had one instance where I friended myself, and that was for a journal-based RPG. Since I saw all the other pertinent RPing threads on my character journal's flist, I just friended myself so that I would see those entries too without having to go back to my own entries to figure out what went where in the timeline.

From: [personal profile] anruik


I had to flip back over 360 entries on my flist after coming back to AX! @_@ And usually I do the silent testimony bit, if only because I absolutely suck at commenting on any piece of artwork or fic other than "I LOVED IT!" English major, I am not, and not qualified to be an editor despite being a writer myself. *chuckles* I'll still comment every once in awhile if I can't help it. (although I seem to be commenting on and sticking every single fic and entry on [livejournal.com profile] ravenwoodfic in my memories... And you know I couldn't have helped but comment on your very first smut! <3)

And journal RPGs.... I've already got one of my own running, those suckers are addicting. XD I'm using GJ for it, though, if only for the absolutely ridiculous amount of free icons allowed (which every single player abuses like no other). It lets you do all sorts of moods to fit the post. *laughs*

From: [personal profile] anruik


NO! *GLOMP* NO FILTER! I stuck that smut into my memories already~!!! *snugs tight, keeps awaaaayyy from the filter* I loved that smut~~ It's better written than mine usually are!

And seriously, I'm getting up there with comments. XD I can't say I'm doing it 'cause it's only fair of me, especially if I expect others to comment on mine mostly 'cause my fic journal is on GJ and I rarely post fic on my own LJ.

*mentally counts how many various RPs she's in with people, as well as RPGs* Hmm... At least 8.... All of them are original creations of my mind that other people were drawn into, 'cept for the one HP Marauder one.

Boy are my muses prolific... *eyes the number*

From: [personal profile] anruik


...... *slow grin* If you'd like, I'll transfer some of my playable characters to your brain. I've done it before, it's fairly harmless. Or at least inspire some just by telling you 'bout my plot bunnies.

And that speaking up bit makes me think of a wedding. Which somehow brings up the idea of Roy in a tux. Which makes one wonder just why the hell he's in a tux. Which brings up the question of whether or not I want to know who he's marrying in my head. --;;

From: [personal profile] anruik


I dunno... I think the wedding thing in my head is just a joke of some sort. Maybe Hughes is daydreaming of the day Roy gets married. Y'know, settling down and becoming a family man just like him!

... Yes, that makes more sense. I can see Roy getting just a little annoyed. XD

And you want me to try transferring characters anyways? XD There's no hurt in trying... *innocent*
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From: [personal profile] harukami


Please don't diss 'Knowledge'. ;_; I find it to be a REALLY REALLY good fic on many, many levels and it makes me sad to see my friends' good fics getting dissed. Even if it's the author dissing her own work. Because the fic deserves better than to be insulted -- it's a good fic, a worthy fic. ;;; Um, is that preachy of me? XD; I mean, I know it's yours, but... it still makes me sad to see a "NO LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THAT", half because I loved it and half because I then start to feel guilty for loving it and like I can't comment on stuff you write that I like if I'm not dead sure YOU still like it.

...if that makes sense and if not I can shut up. 8D;
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From: [personal profile] harukami


I wish I knew something to say to that. XD; Or a way to make you SEE how it's one of the best fics with smut in that I've EVER READ, let alone one that I LIKE. :D; It makes me... I don't know, it makes me leery of saying ANYTHING if I know I might upset you b y saying I LIKE it when it is insanely GOOD. Better than any I'VE written, which makes me go... well, you know how I arrgh at our artist friends when they draw INSANELY GOOD ART but don't seem to... like it or believe that complements are TRUE and there for a REASON? Yeah. Because. what can I say? I can't say "I agree with you" because that's a LIE, but when I say "But it's some of the best smut I have EVER READ" (make that the best smut, dammit), let alone written (as a fellow author who DOES write smut) ... and you just go "Ha ha no way and not comfortable with it", I feel like... I can't do anything.

which, I suppose, is not my role. But just. It's. Frustrating, in a way. XD; Because I love you and I love your fics and dammit, I love Knowledge, and I feel like I'm not ALLOWED to, but I do.

(Comic moment in otherwise INTENSELY HONESTLY TEARY MOMENT: "Our love is forbidden and pure!")

But, um, it's clearly bothering you, so I'll try to be at least quiet... even if it's really hard to keep my mouth shut when I see you saying that people shouldn't even talk about a fic of yours which is, like, one of my favourite fics ever? XD;; Yeah. Will shut up now. Love you, sorry for putting you on the spot. >_>;;
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From: [personal profile] harukami


I check LJ TEN BILLION TIMES A DAY when possible. XD No, literally. I am known to sit there and RELOAD. Because I have no life. XD;

The people I know who friend themselves do it so they can check comments and stuff relative to the time they posted and things like that. XD It just puts it all on one page instead of having to click the 'recent' link. I don't do it myself, but I can sorta get that. XD

From: [identity profile] ex-saraswath377.livejournal.com


If I'm for the most part at home like I am today, I'll check it constantly, just because...the computer's here, I guess. ^_^ It's nice for me because most of my friends, online and offline, are on a totally different schedule than I am (my work schedule in particular is bizarre and insane) and I can keep up with the major things going on with them. Commenting, too, lets them know I'm still alive and caring about them even if we haven't been able to see each other or talk on AIM for a week.

People post lyrics as a hint to how they're feeling without saying it outright, I suppose. I don't buy into it myself but I can see why they do it.

As to writing...usually the further I get away from myself the better the original stories are. If I try to incorporate myself or someone else I know into the story it usually ends up bad or pointless. My fanfics, for some reason, are always the best when I can tie the character into something that's happened to me. This makes absolutely no sense to me or anyone else. ^^;;;; But usually ideas for stories come to me with something that's happened to me - ex, one day I almost lost my keys. I thought about what would happen if a worker at the arcade I was at found my keys and started fitting them to random cars, seeing what kind of car the person had and what that told about them, and eventually meeting the person that owned the car. Story idea, bam! (And one I still haven't written, at that. ^^;;) Once I attune myself to plot, then usually the character comes naturally to the plot....somehow. ^_~

From: [identity profile] chibirisu.livejournal.com


Don't know about most of it, but in my case I put myself on my friends list because it's the only way to make it possible to watch specific sub-conversations. Like for example I wanted to have a quick way to strip out all the conversations Kath and I have about a particular game we're co-GMing, and the only way to do that AND keep it for just Kath and me to see (because it would be bad if our gamers saw the plots obviously ^_~) is to have a custom-defined friends group called something like GamePlotting that consists of just her and me. (And also, sorting by that view makes it a LOT easier to distinguish the game-marked stuff from the other stuff!)

So anything we write about the game gets tagged "custom security - members of the GamePlotting group" and then I can go into my friends view and look at just that set of things from the friends list and all our exchanges are there... and I couldn't do it without having myself on my friends list, in order to be able to put myself into the custom groups I sort by... if you see what I mean...?

So anyway, that's why some people friend themselves anyway -- if someone don't use the custom groupings then I don't know what they'd do with it, but for those of us who do make custom groups, it's practically required to friend yourself if you hold conversations where both of you have started threads at different times...

er, yeah...

From: [identity profile] tdei.livejournal.com


=) Why bother friending yourself? Uh... well, I don't have multiple journals yet, but I do have multiple AIM sns and I do add myself on them... Wait, you mean your journal on the friends' list. I'm guessing it's for the entertainment value? XD; Or like, you usually only bother to check your flist and not what you posted, but you also don't often check your email... so you have your entries on your flist to scan if you got comments so you'll know to look at them? ...I also think it's possible paranoia to check that no one's hacked into your journal and posts from it. XD;

As for lyrics... I posted a couple now and then too. Hm. Mostly, it was because I'm so obsessed with the song, I want to post it for prosperity, or so my flist can see what I'm obsessing over (it's one thing to note the song title; my eyes usually don't look at the track name on the entry; it's another to see what its contents are unless you have personally heard the song yourself). Also, it might be a roadside crack flag. Meaning, this song (or stanza) is influencing something creative from me, be prepared? XD;;; Then again, maybe I just think there is something beautiful in the lyrics or prose and I want to share that beauty with my flist-- see what I see.

...dude, I check my flist at least... well. 5-15 times per day when I'm the computer, I think. XD; Boredom and craving for interaction is a terrible thing?

I post... like, when I've got something to offer, like a fic or picture. Or I post when I have an SQUEEING!FANGIRL moment or a very emotional moment (like my NOOOOO scream yesterday XD;). I mostly post when I want to write down something of my life, have time, or want to waste some stress, I think? Also when I ponder or analyze something. I also give a heads-up to people on my flist occasionally to contact them when I'm not online.

My comment doesn't follow much of a pattern though... Hm. I comment most when someone has a problem or question that I can answer and I feel like it will help. I comment when there's something creative done that I really like (although I confess sometimes I don't because it's so perfect, there's nothing to say! D: ...or laziness, but yes. ::cough::) I do some mindless comment or hit-and-run meaningless comments to let friends know that I'm listening and I care. Also to convey information and thoughts I guess. :O

From: [identity profile] cinnamonblood.livejournal.com


On journal servers with 'friends,' why bother friending yourself?

I don't get that one, either. I have no idea why people do it.

Lyricposts, too.

Lyricposts annoy me. I could see maybe posting a line or two of a song if it really fits your mood or whatever, but I don't get posting the entire bloody song. I never read posts like that and nine times out of ten it's a song or band I don't like or have never heard of anyway. :-/

As for checking my flist, that depends on how much time I have to be online and how bored I am. XD Like right now I'm just skimming my flist because I need to take a shower and then go pick up my cake! *hurries off now!*

From: [identity profile] halcyonjazz.livejournal.com


Because I'm on my way to class, I'll make this quick XD

The reason why I friend myself is because it's very easy fo me to see if I get more comments in any post I make by just refreshing the friends page. it's a laziness thing (what, you expected another reason from me? >D)

And if I'm sitting at my computer, i check my friends page like, three times every few seconds. Just reload reload reload. >DDDDDD because, like Haru said, I have no life >D
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